By Rosano in Zero Data — Jul 8, 2021

Building Zero Data Apps & Entrepreneurship

Earning a living building software without holding other people’s data.

A group discussion about earning a living building software without holding other people’s data. Open-source licensing, payment models, and more.

Blog post:

time	section
00:00	Intro
01:50	Business models and challenges
04:35	Steve: Does this make $300,000 a year?
06:09	Mark: Is this profitable like SaaS?
08:29	What are we selling?
10:08	Basti: SaaS sells access to data
10:49	Boris: What features does SaaS enable?
12:25	Noel: What happens to data when apps stop working
13:30	Lorenzo: Educating people about technical possibilities
15:06	Boris: Movement building
15:53	Boris: What does open-source mean?
16:53	How does open-source change the dynamic?
19:11	Rosano: What I want for people using my apps
20:45	David: Beyond donations
22:27	David: Doing feathers.js full-time
24:31	Basti: Hosting the app versus the data
27:17	Boris: People paying for convenience of not hosting
28:39	Basti/Gyuri: The value of apps
29:21	Sustaining projects less transactionally
32:54	Lorenzo: Research on digital commons and peer production
35:08	Boris: The impact of github.com on open-source culture
36:02	David: Challenges in distributing collective funds
37:53	David: Culture changes post Microsoft, Google, Facebook
39:55	Basti: How Kosmos pays contributors with crypto
44:05	Boris: The non-western world in open-source
45:52	Boris: Bringing non-engineers into the fold
47:16	David: Too much governance
50:21	Boris: Directing dividends to makers automatically
53:29	Rosano: Community-building
55:13	Rosano: Looking for collaborators
56:48	Gyuri: Leverage interoperability to create community
57:57	Boris: Building movements together
61:18	Interoperability challenges
62:56	Lorenzo/Boris/Basti: Matrix recruiting their lead contributors
67:10	Basti/Boris: Dangers of centralized influence in ecosystems
73:16	Rosano: Calls to action

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